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		<title>By: bugitz0223</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: Well...based on my limited experience in adopting my daughter from who was residing in a Childrens Hospital for Infectious Diseases prior to me adopting her...There is relatively little foreigners can do to give better options to children living in other countries.  We don&#039;t make the rules there.  They do.  Many of the countries that children are adopted from have a very different cultural set of values or ideals than we do in the US (or the Western world in general).  Where my daughter was living, there were no toys, and the children were dressed in rags.  APs would bring donations of toys, clothes, and purchase cribs, space heaters, you name it.  but those items &quot;disappeared&quot; shortly after they were purchased.  I brought a huge bag of clothes which were gone the next day.  We might give resources or donations or attempt to help make life better for kids in orphanages, but it&#039;s up to the local facility as well as their government as to what happens with those resources.  
As far as convincing them that there&#039;s a better way - foster care or whatever - again - that&#039;s up to their government.  I don&#039;t know how much we could do to improve on that.  Some countries have social stigmas against single moms, so that even if there were mechanisms in place to help them out financially, it&#039;s doubtful they would keep the a child conceived out of wedlock.  And some children born out of wedlock are so stigmatized that they might be ostracized and shunned from their own families.  The whole paradigm is completely different in other countries for adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: Well&#8230;based on my limited experience in adopting my daughter from who was residing in a Childrens Hospital for Infectious Diseases prior to me adopting her&#8230;There is relatively little foreigners can do to give better options to children living in other countries.  We don&#8217;t make the rules there.  They do.  Many of the countries that children are adopted from have a very different cultural set of values or ideals than we do in the US (or the Western world in general).  Where my daughter was living, there were no toys, and the children were dressed in rags.  APs would bring donations of toys, clothes, and purchase cribs, space heaters, you name it.  but those items &#8220;disappeared&#8221; shortly after they were purchased.  I brought a huge bag of clothes which were gone the next day.  We might give resources or donations or attempt to help make life better for kids in orphanages, but it&#8217;s up to the local facility as well as their government as to what happens with those resources.<br />
As far as convincing them that there&#8217;s a better way &#8211; foster care or whatever &#8211; again &#8211; that&#8217;s up to their government.  I don&#8217;t know how much we could do to improve on that.  Some countries have social stigmas against single moms, so that even if there were mechanisms in place to help them out financially, it&#8217;s doubtful they would keep the a child conceived out of wedlock.  And some children born out of wedlock are so stigmatized that they might be ostracized and shunned from their own families.  The whole paradigm is completely different in other countries for adoption.</p>
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		<title>By: shredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>shredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: yes it is</description>
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		<title>By: Shelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: NO to the first part of your question.

And I am just as interested in hearing ideas people have in regards to the second part of your question.  

As for me I have adopted children who were already living in orphanages who did not have any family, at least any family that wants them (as far as I know, unless I am proven otherwise).  

I am unapologetic about adopting them because at the time I did not see any better solution where they could received care that was better than what I could offer them.  My children do not loose their culture or their language as I am from the same background.  Life for them is now full of possibilites that they would never have otherwise if they stayed in the orphanage.

This is going to sound harsh, but do you think these countries save what they consider the best children for IA&#039;s to adopt?  Sadly no, they give away the children that do not suit their ideals.

Example, at my daughters orphanage, I was told that locals who do adopt specifically ask for light skinned children.  Considering that they are living in a tropical climate and kids like playing outside in the sun, most kids are &quot;dark&quot;, so what happens to those children.  Nobody wants them at home, so they give them away to foreigners who do want them.  

How about changing the local attitudes first.  

My kids are lucky not to have to grow up with those stupid attitudes.  I know, because I had to deal with those prejudices when I was living there, and I was only a child as well.

I would even think, they are now in a better position and certainly will have more financial resources to find their first family when or if they finally want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: NO to the first part of your question.</p>
<p>And I am just as interested in hearing ideas people have in regards to the second part of your question.  </p>
<p>As for me I have adopted children who were already living in orphanages who did not have any family, at least any family that wants them (as far as I know, unless I am proven otherwise).  </p>
<p>I am unapologetic about adopting them because at the time I did not see any better solution where they could received care that was better than what I could offer them.  My children do not loose their culture or their language as I am from the same background.  Life for them is now full of possibilites that they would never have otherwise if they stayed in the orphanage.</p>
<p>This is going to sound harsh, but do you think these countries save what they consider the best children for IA&#8217;s to adopt?  Sadly no, they give away the children that do not suit their ideals.</p>
<p>Example, at my daughters orphanage, I was told that locals who do adopt specifically ask for light skinned children.  Considering that they are living in a tropical climate and kids like playing outside in the sun, most kids are &#8220;dark&#8221;, so what happens to those children.  Nobody wants them at home, so they give them away to foreigners who do want them.  </p>
<p>How about changing the local attitudes first.  </p>
<p>My kids are lucky not to have to grow up with those stupid attitudes.  I know, because I had to deal with those prejudices when I was living there, and I was only a child as well.</p>
<p>I would even think, they are now in a better position and certainly will have more financial resources to find their first family when or if they finally want to.</p>
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		<title>By: cutie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cutie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: No its not the only solution .They can be even be sent 2 schools &amp; be provided by necessary stuff ,insted of adoption.</description>
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		<title>By: Peony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: Most children in orphanages never are adopted.  Most live in a group homes with caregivers but the quality of that care is as unique as the people working there.  Most orphanages never even allow for the adoption of their children -- just Google orphanages  -- you will see plea after plea for money -- to support the children.  Problem is, many of these orphanages are quite corrupt. That being said, many times adoption is a far better choice for them.  We will not however, curtail the abuse and abandonment of our children until we value them more than we value money, control, hedonism and freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: Most children in orphanages never are adopted.  Most live in a group homes with caregivers but the quality of that care is as unique as the people working there.  Most orphanages never even allow for the adoption of their children &#8212; just Google orphanages  &#8212; you will see plea after plea for money &#8212; to support the children.  Problem is, many of these orphanages are quite corrupt. That being said, many times adoption is a far better choice for them.  We will not however, curtail the abuse and abandonment of our children until we value them more than we value money, control, hedonism and freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Crucio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crucio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: I suppose someone could donate money or items o the orphanage and if they live in the area donate their time by helping out with the children or anything that needs to be done.  If a child has family who could take them with some financial assistance that could be done.  

I just donâ€™t think an orphanage is any place for someone to grow up. Every child deserves to have a family whether they are with their natural family, adopted or even an honorary family.  There is just stability that one canâ€™t really get from living in an orphanage or even bouncing around the Foster Care System. 

Try and make the conditions of children living in orphanages better. I know its hard many are too short staffed and have many children. Most children probably get very limited one on one time if they even get any at all. I am sure many depend greatly on some of the volunteers if they have any.  Funding is not the greatest many depend on donations in the case R mentioned its even harder if the State/country is not helping out some financially.

Maybe they can encourage trying to place a child first among someone in their native land. Thatâ€™s how the Native Americans do it their last option to place is outside Native Americans but even then they have rules and regulations to keep the child active/knowledgeable  in their tribal culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: I suppose someone could donate money or items o the orphanage and if they live in the area donate their time by helping out with the children or anything that needs to be done.  If a child has family who could take them with some financial assistance that could be done.  </p>
<p>I just donâ€™t think an orphanage is any place for someone to grow up. Every child deserves to have a family whether they are with their natural family, adopted or even an honorary family.  There is just stability that one canâ€™t really get from living in an orphanage or even bouncing around the Foster Care System. </p>
<p>Try and make the conditions of children living in orphanages better. I know its hard many are too short staffed and have many children. Most children probably get very limited one on one time if they even get any at all. I am sure many depend greatly on some of the volunteers if they have any.  Funding is not the greatest many depend on donations in the case R mentioned its even harder if the State/country is not helping out some financially.</p>
<p>Maybe they can encourage trying to place a child first among someone in their native land. Thatâ€™s how the Native Americans do it their last option to place is outside Native Americans but even then they have rules and regulations to keep the child active/knowledgeable  in their tribal culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: Life in an institution is simply VERY damaging to a person, and the longer a child is institutionalized the greater the negative affect is.  There is much research to support this and I&#039;ve seen many examples of it.  I believe that the negative effects of institutional living outweigh even the negative effects of all that is lost in international adoption:  language, lack of connection to birth family, culture, food, smells, everything familiar.  And I don&#039;t think I minimize those losses, so that is how damaging I really think institutionalization is.  There is a wide range in the quality of care in orphanages, but even the best are still institutional living.  

Now, of course, that doesn&#039;t mean that the choice is, or at least it doesn&#039;t have to remain, between international adoption or institutional living.  Efforts could be made for infrastructure building in places where many children are orphaned, foster care, domestic adoption, etc.  I guess I believe that there are many children institutionalized at the moment with an immediate need for international adoption and many children in the future needing us to work to reduce that need.

Now, many children are adopted internationally when they aren&#039;t institutionalized in their birth country.  And my daughter was one of them.  She was in foster care.  In all honesty, she would have had her basic needs met in her birth country and could have kept the part of herself intact that is severed by international adoption.  Overall, was what was gained for her worth it?  You know, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever know.  I&#039;m just going to give her all I can, help her connect to all that she came from, and hope she remains the joyful little girl she is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: Life in an institution is simply VERY damaging to a person, and the longer a child is institutionalized the greater the negative affect is.  There is much research to support this and I&#8217;ve seen many examples of it.  I believe that the negative effects of institutional living outweigh even the negative effects of all that is lost in international adoption:  language, lack of connection to birth family, culture, food, smells, everything familiar.  And I don&#8217;t think I minimize those losses, so that is how damaging I really think institutionalization is.  There is a wide range in the quality of care in orphanages, but even the best are still institutional living.  </p>
<p>Now, of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean that the choice is, or at least it doesn&#8217;t have to remain, between international adoption or institutional living.  Efforts could be made for infrastructure building in places where many children are orphaned, foster care, domestic adoption, etc.  I guess I believe that there are many children institutionalized at the moment with an immediate need for international adoption and many children in the future needing us to work to reduce that need.</p>
<p>Now, many children are adopted internationally when they aren&#8217;t institutionalized in their birth country.  And my daughter was one of them.  She was in foster care.  In all honesty, she would have had her basic needs met in her birth country and could have kept the part of herself intact that is severed by international adoption.  Overall, was what was gained for her worth it?  You know, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever know.  I&#8217;m just going to give her all I can, help her connect to all that she came from, and hope she remains the joyful little girl she is today.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: I know in China some children are placed in foster care through western charities.  Unfortunately, these children can age out and are on the street.  Because they are orphans they are not registered with the government and can not go to school, get a job, or get married.  For the orphans in China  the best thing for them is adoption, either domestically (a growing trend) or internationally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: I know in China some children are placed in foster care through western charities.  Unfortunately, these children can age out and are on the street.  Because they are orphans they are not registered with the government and can not go to school, get a job, or get married.  For the orphans in China  the best thing for them is adoption, either domestically (a growing trend) or internationally.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: For children already in orphanages, there is no substitute for a family.  No institution however well managed and well funded can replace what a family can offer. Not to mention the fact that without education, children in orphanages &quot;age out&quot; with no means to support themselves at all.  

Donations, education, foreign policy, all these things have their place and should continue.  But every one of these things is geared toward addressing the underlying problem as to why there are so many children in orphanages in the first place.  This is also very important, but it does little to address the needs of the children already in an orphanage.  

I don&#039;t see international adoption as a long term solution to the problems in third world countries.  It&#039;s a band aid, at best.  But for many countries, it remains a necessary band-aid, right now.

ETA: I think there are some pretty big misconceptions about what a truly impoverished country is actually able to provide for children in orphanages. Domestic adoption within the country is preferable, problem is, it&#039;s not feasible for most countries.  Orphanages can be run by some pretty corrupt people who keep as many children as possible in order to get more UNICEF aid, which is sold on the black market.  In the meantime, the children aren&#039;t getting the clean water and foodstuffs.  I&#039;d been to some pretty poor parts of Mexico before we adopted and there was nothing NOTHING that could have prepared me for what I saw in Liberia.  The problem is that many perceptions of what can be done AT THIS TIME, are simply not possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: For children already in orphanages, there is no substitute for a family.  No institution however well managed and well funded can replace what a family can offer. Not to mention the fact that without education, children in orphanages &#8220;age out&#8221; with no means to support themselves at all.  </p>
<p>Donations, education, foreign policy, all these things have their place and should continue.  But every one of these things is geared toward addressing the underlying problem as to why there are so many children in orphanages in the first place.  This is also very important, but it does little to address the needs of the children already in an orphanage.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see international adoption as a long term solution to the problems in third world countries.  It&#8217;s a band aid, at best.  But for many countries, it remains a necessary band-aid, right now.</p>
<p>ETA: I think there are some pretty big misconceptions about what a truly impoverished country is actually able to provide for children in orphanages. Domestic adoption within the country is preferable, problem is, it&#8217;s not feasible for most countries.  Orphanages can be run by some pretty corrupt people who keep as many children as possible in order to get more UNICEF aid, which is sold on the black market.  In the meantime, the children aren&#8217;t getting the clean water and foodstuffs.  I&#8217;d been to some pretty poor parts of Mexico before we adopted and there was nothing NOTHING that could have prepared me for what I saw in Liberia.  The problem is that many perceptions of what can be done AT THIS TIME, are simply not possible.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adoption Feedback: i don&#039;t think it is the only solution  but for many it is the a really good one.  I visited three different orphanages in India when i did a study abroad.  From  a poor one with dirt floors to a  really nice one with gym and pool.  In all the kids were crammed into rooms.  I mean one had 24 girls in one room with nothing more than a mat and a space for their stuff.  They were well feed and went to school but the girls will almost for sure not marry.  They still have cast and dowry in india and with no parents to pay a dowry no one will want to marry them. I cried at everyone and for days later.  I wanted to take them all home.  The state/country gives no money to these places the survive on donations and volunteers.  Yes giving money can help their quality of life growing up but there are no student loans for school and like i said they need a dowry and a family to pay it in the rural areas at least.  Dowry is not something used in big city from what i can gather. 
An adoption locally or international will help these kids so much
I can not speak for the rest of the world but i know in India for sure it is a good choice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adoption Feedback: i don&#8217;t think it is the only solution  but for many it is the a really good one.  I visited three different orphanages in India when i did a study abroad.  From  a poor one with dirt floors to a  really nice one with gym and pool.  In all the kids were crammed into rooms.  I mean one had 24 girls in one room with nothing more than a mat and a space for their stuff.  They were well feed and went to school but the girls will almost for sure not marry.  They still have cast and dowry in india and with no parents to pay a dowry no one will want to marry them. I cried at everyone and for days later.  I wanted to take them all home.  The state/country gives no money to these places the survive on donations and volunteers.  Yes giving money can help their quality of life growing up but there are no student loans for school and like i said they need a dowry and a family to pay it in the rural areas at least.  Dowry is not something used in big city from what i can gather.<br />
An adoption locally or international will help these kids so much<br />
I can not speak for the rest of the world but i know in India for sure it is a good choice</p>
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