WWII Johnson M1941 rifle @ 420 yards

September 7, 2010 by Adoption Information and Laws  
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The M1941 Rifle was an American short-recoil operated semiautomatic rifle designed by Melvin Johnson prior to World War II. The M1941 competed unsuccessfully with the US M1 Garand. Melvin Johnson campaigned heavily for the adoption of the Johnson rifle by the US Army and other service branches. However, after limited testing, the US Army rejected the Johnson in favor of the M1 Garand rifle developed by Springfield Armory. The M1941 Johnson was ordered by the Netherlands for issue to its troops in the Dutch East Indies, but the Japanese invaded the islands before the rifles could be shipped from California. At this time, the US Marine Corps found itself in need of a modern fast-firing infantry rifle, and acquired some rifles from the Dutch East Indies shipment for issue to its Paramarine battalions then preparing to deploy for action in the Pacific theatre. By all accounts, the M1941 Johnson performed acceptably in combat with the Marines in the early days of the Pacific fighting. Despite repeated requests to adopt the rifle by the Marine Corps, the Johnson rifle also lacked the support of US Army Ordnance, which had already invested considerable sums in the development of the M1 Garand and its revised gas operating system, then just going into full production. Johnson was successful in selling small quantities of the Johnson Light Machine Gun to the US armed forces, and this weapon was later used by both Para-Marines and the Army’s First Special Service Force.[4] The
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25 Responses to “WWII Johnson M1941 rifle @ 420 yards”

  1. airsoftloverusp on September 7th, 2010 9:30 pm

    @Bl0odVomit NO they didnt they already had the garand and did not want to wast them all but yeah the Grand is better im just stating the obvious about why they didnt pick the johnson.

  2. Bl0odVomit on September 7th, 2010 10:13 pm

    @airsoftloverusp Actualy I’m not 10, I’m Icelandic so English spelling isn’t exactly the easyest thing for me to do… And yeah they did pick the Garand over the Johnson as the standard issue rifle. Stop trollin’

  3. airsoftloverusp on September 7th, 2010 10:28 pm

    @Bl0odVomit Dude fuck you they did not pick it over the johnson they already had thousands of garands ps your prolly ten you cant even spell large.

  4. viperboost931 on September 7th, 2010 10:40 pm

    @mag30th If I’m not mistaken the number one con to the Johnson, and what could have dogged it, is that the magazines are complicated and dent easily. And as we all know, dented mags don’t usually work like they should. That Aside, like you said, capable.

  5. legogunreplicas on September 7th, 2010 11:24 pm

    @legogunreplicas lets just agree that we both know alot about ww2 guns and battles that they were in

  6. legogunreplicas on September 8th, 2010 12:04 am

    @mag30th yes i know, i think that we can all agree that we know alot about weapons and the wars they were in

  7. Bl0odVomit on September 8th, 2010 12:09 am

    @legogunreplicas The “ping” from the en block wasn’t really a problem. Think about it, most squads have 6 men. Maby one of them has a thompson or grease gun for being a sergent or officer. Then you maby have one soilder with a carbine because he is a radio op, or a B.A.R. gunner. The other 4 have Garands. So even if one does run out and the “ping” ocures, you still have 3 guys that are loaded and still shooting, plus the 2 other soilders are still loaded and are shooting/ ready to shoot.

  8. legogunreplicas on September 8th, 2010 12:59 am

    @Bl0odVomit the only reason that we didnt make the johnson rifle standard issuse was because we already had a contract with springfield and that we would have to retrain our men in the middle of combat zones, our marine 1st parachute division used them and liked them and the m1 had the unmistakeable sound of the clip popping out wich alerted enemys close by that there was a guy with an empty weapon

  9. Bl0odVomit on September 8th, 2010 1:27 am

    @legogunreplicas Ok, what evr, but most magazined rifles can’t be topped off, and also the Johnson uses striper clips instead of an en-block. Stripper clips are a bit harder to load into a rifle, they are loaded into the right side which you have to take the time to find the stripper clip guides, and you have to move your head to see it. Plus you need to use 2 clips insted of 1 with the m1. And you have to extract the stripper clips after you load the rounds. So the Johnson takes longer to load

  10. legogunreplicas on September 8th, 2010 1:43 am

    @Bl0odVomit thats not topping off the magm, topping off the mag is when you add ammo to the magazine that your firing with out removing the unfired bullets from the gun

  11. roopr on September 8th, 2010 1:56 am

    @Bl0odVomit Have you ever fired an M1941 SA Johnson Rifle? Size and Weight of the rifle are actually comparable to one another. Accuracy is also comparable, but the Johnson has a 10 shot rotary magazine while the M1 Garand is an 8 shot clip fed magazine. The US Military chose the M1 Garand because or two main reasons:1, Manufacturing time; 2, Ease of maintance on the M1 Garand vs. the Johnson.

  12. Bl0odVomit on September 8th, 2010 1:59 am

    @legogunreplicas what are you stupid? You can top off the M1, open the chamber, and press the button on the side and the clip ejects, Then insert another and keep on keepin’ on

  13. legogunreplicas on September 8th, 2010 2:46 am

    @Bl0odVomit the johnson rifle has a magazine that you can top off unlike your boyfriend the m1 garand

  14. legogunreplicas on September 8th, 2010 3:03 am

    @Bl0odVomit the johnson rifle has a magazine that you can top off unlike your boyfriend the m1

  15. druisteen2 on September 8th, 2010 3:30 am

    never heard that they have reproduction of this

  16. AlienZygote010 on September 8th, 2010 4:26 am

    @mag30th – that’s what happens when people who only have video game experience comment – they spew nonsense.

  17. BlackEcho24 on September 8th, 2010 4:34 am

    you should’ve showed how to load/reload it, since it looks more complicated than the M1’s design with its rotary magazine. other than that, i’d say i’d prefer the M1 since, like i said, the johnson looks to be more complicated, so i’d imagine it’s alot harder to clean/maintain than the M1.

  18. TheDudeMan130 on September 8th, 2010 5:00 am

    @Bl0odVomit lol you just got OWNED by this dude

  19. SuperTelecom on September 8th, 2010 5:39 am

    Ah ok. I don’t know all that much about the M41. this is the first video I’ve seen showing how it was loaded. It looks a lot more complex than the Garand was on the outside let alone internally. I can guess how easy it was to screw up during a field stip (probably worse than the AVS-36, which was bad enough) I guess they just wanted the all round best rifle. I like the look of the M1 more than the Garand though.

  20. MoonRing on September 8th, 2010 6:21 am

    its my understanding that its shortcomings weren’t in how it loaded but in how it was disassembled or “field stripped” for quick cleaning by a soldier having smaller parts it was easier to lose a screw or something in a battlefield as compared to the garands construction.

  21. 11251309 on September 8th, 2010 6:39 am

    how much do you pay for ??

  22. Schultz98 on September 8th, 2010 7:10 am

    very cool gun! you have a great collection of classic firearms!

  23. augdog18 on September 8th, 2010 7:34 am

    Folks need to make sure to clean their Johnson. Regularly.

  24. JoeyMcjj on September 8th, 2010 7:36 am

    didn’t the US supply this rifle to the Chinese Nationalist during the Chinese Civil War???

  25. the41guy on September 8th, 2010 8:33 am

    The rifles and Lmg depicted in these videos are originals. I’ve shot my rifles and LMG numerous times. Every time I go the range with them they always bring a crowd. The Johnson is faster to target than the M1. All it takes is practice.

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